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's not been great so far. it will matter quite a bit whether or not they are able to get a fiscal cliff deal done in the near future. somebody clears the decks to do other things, things that might not be quite as either controversial or may not matter as much to the economy. so if you have a long fight over immigration, that's not a great thing but it's better than having a fight that leads to a debt ceiling default. the question is whether or not they are able to move past this in a way that allows for making agreements going forward or whether or not we end up in the essentially endless series of smaller fiscal cliffs this year. things get pushed forward for two weeks, two months, three months at a time and another debt ceiling in early 2013. if that's the case, there's going to be a lot more uncertainty and the structure will be there a lot more, very angry, a lot more tense, a lot more bitter, 11th hour negotiations going forward. >> mike, what sectors or areas are you watching in 2013? >> i think what's interesting is that the housing revival has obviously been embraced by wall street.
without legislation. everyone assumes the fiscal cliff negotiations are done for the moment. suppose the newfound bears conventional wisdom is wrong. suppose if we don't go over the fiscal cliff or at the very least we get resolved with minimum destruction as i talked about at the top of the show. my super bowl see you in new orleans solution. i'm not saying this will happen. i'm saying this positive scenario is very much on the table. it has to be considered. and in that rosy okay things are all right scenario, good things could happen to our stock market in 2013. let's say you're an optimist that believes the fiscal cliff will be resolved and they rise above. what's the best way to play a fabulous bull market that some think could be unleashed? simple. assuming that everything goes right, the best proxy for the market in 2013 is the blackstone group. the big publicly traded asset firm. why blackstone? a company that i wasn't keen on. the company earns money investing other people's money. private equity funds. at the moment the company has $205 billion in assets under management. t
package that avoids this fiscal cliff. beyond that, there's much work that needs to be done beyond the fiscal cliff. this negotiation does not really go deeply into deficit reduction, and i think we need to. i was a member of the simpson-bowles commission. i salute my colleague, kent conrad of north dakota who is retiring in a few days for his amazing leadership in bringing us to this moment in this national debate. pwe we still have much work to do and i'm sorry kent won't be here to be personally part of it. i viewed him as an almost irreplaceable resource in this debate. he knows more about our federal budget and the deficit challenge we face than any member of congress. period. all the rest of us have learned so much from him, and we're certainly going to miss him. but we need to continue this effort that he started to reduce the deficit. we need to look seriously at our entitlement programs so that at the end of the day we meet our obligation to future generations. social security is solvent for 20 years. we should make it solvent for 75. and we can do it. if we face it today,
: if we get it done on the fiscal cliff, will we see a selloff in metals? >> i don't believe that we will. europe right now is the safe haven. there's no negative news. by any means, they are not done with all that's going on over there. everything is focused here on the u.s. and the fiscal cliff, and until that is resolved, if it gets resolved, the traders are pulling back, volatility's high, and there's going to be very thin volume in the markets. it's not going to take much to get gold and silver back up. >> well, back to cindy quickly. if we have a deal, is it bullish for oil? she's already gone. i'll ask doreen, you're with us, aren't you? >> i am. volume, today, by the way, 37% below the three month average. could lead to some volatility, but we have not seen that, have we? >> we have not, but vix is up at 19, a little bit higher. the hope is to get more volume here, otherwise, you know, the fiscal cliff is killing everything. everything. these guys don't get it in washington. i don't know why. i hope they come to their senses soon. ashley: nobody knows why, but i'm tired of saying
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tonight on "n.b.r."! washington lawmakers are getting close to a fiscal cliff deal, but they might not get it done before the midnight deadline tonight. the senate could vote in time, but it's possible the house will wait until tuesday. that means the u.s. could go over the fiscal cliff. on wall street today, investors bought up stocks on high hopes of deal, after president obama said this afternoon a deal is "in sight," and positive comments from republican leaders in the senate. here's how e major averagesr closed on this last trading day of 2012. the dow surged 166 points, the nasdaq jumped about 60, and the s&p rose almost 24 points. while wall street has already closed the books on 2012, washington still has a few hours to go before its new year's day fiscal cliff deadline. darren gersh has the latest. >> reporter: after a weekend of late-night negotiations with the vice presidt, senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said an agreement on the fiscal cliff was very, very close. >> we'll continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending, but let's not let that hold up protectin
what? if this fiscal cliff thing is done, i'm going to sleep. however, if it isn't dealt with, your taxes are going to go up. your grocery bill might go up too. the deal that could affect milk prices, next. and a new year's message from washington from one of our viewers. >> my new year's message to washington is this. there are not wealthy enough and corporations to keep you in office. in this light, grow up, govern, and most importantly. support middle class policies. am i on this one? no, no, no, no, no. i am on this one. [ male announcer ] for every 2 pounds you lose through diet and exercise alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. simple. effective. belt-friendly. let's fight fat with alli. learn more, lose more at letsfightfat.com. learn more, lose more are you flo? yes. is this the thing you gave my husband? well, yeah, yes. the "name your price" tool. you tell us the price you want to pay, and we give you a range of options to choose from. careful, though -- that kind of power can go to your head. that explains a lot. yo, buddy! i got thi
cliff. david: let's be clear about what he has done and wants to do. he increases 25% of the baseline. if we go over the fiscal cliff, he gets a lot more money. it is not just rich people paying out. he will get a lot more money, so he does want that. he will get a cut into military. if anything goes wrong, he can blame republicans for it. >> right. from his standpoint, it is a win-win across the board to go over the cliff, have the automatic sequester cuts, take the tax increases, go back to the clinton era rates and that when the economy reacts, as it most certainly will, negatively, then he will blame the republicans for putting us into a recession. david: let's put a fine point on that. what we are suggesting here, they call it an outrageous suggestion, that the president is willing to send this country into a recession to get what he wants. you are really saying that? >> i think that he is willing to gamble. i believe that the president and his advisors have looked at the history of congress and they know that when we get a major market of bed, large drop in the stock market, any
. people have said that economists said concern about the fiscal cliff has already done damage. the economy, according to the cob is certain to fall back into recession and negative growth in the new year. is that higher taxes in a way a death knell for the economy or whole picture, of increased taxes and increased spending and no meaningful deficit reduction? >> we're seeing some effect already. you're seeing that in numbers on consumer confidence, on christmas season spending and business investment in hiring. the higher tacks is not the end of the republic. it is bad for growth. but we can still have a strong economy. but i do think we need to deal with uncertainty of what are taxes going forward. this cliff deal is short-term deal. we need leadership congressman was talking about. i wish it was there i agree with him what we really need going forward. lori: congressman rigell, one last comment from you with regards to confidence in washington of the americans are fed up with the wheeling and dealing in washington and no compromise. is there anything you can say to reinforce our confiden
government. host: can you take us through the next 48 hours on this debate on the fiscal cliff? what needs to happen? caller: ok. i say, the president should be willing to come up to $300,000, as far as tax increases. we need revenue. $400,000, some people make that. we need revenue. the only way to get it is to get it from people who actually have the money. there is no shame in helping our government. this is our government. the republicans need to understand that social security and medicare -- listen, those are so important. people are talking about i do not want children paying the bill. they will need social security as well. i want republicans to realize that they were elected to do the will of the people. not just the three% or whatever. they all need to understand that we are all affected by their thinking -- the president won the election, right? host: thank you for the call. i want to take you through some of the effects, if we do go off the fiscal cliff, if congress takes no action. this is the chart from the new york times of what will happen immediately and in the next couple
this morning's "washington journal." host: our topic is the fiscal cliff. of we have done for last several sundays, we welcome the policy director for the concord coalition and a columnist for roll call newspaper. thank you for coming back. stan, as we stand on the edge of the fiscal cliff, is there any chance we do not go over? guest: we are relying on a senate that has been dysfunctional and avoided a filibuster when it will be really easy for one or more senators who do not like tax increases to just filibuster round and we are relying on a house that could not take the lead. it's important to state that while the official deadline is the 31st, the true this congress can continue to worked until the new congress comes in january 3rd. we have more like three days. host: joshua gordon, are we going over the cliff? what will it mean if we do? guest: in some sense, we will even if they reach a deal. this is something when you look at the contours' of the deal that have been talking about, there will still be a lot left for future decision making. even if they are able to extend taxes for th
brews up a bold campaign to get a deal done on the fiscal cliff. details are coming up next. you can never have too much money and a damn good cup of joe. ♪ . ♪ . adam: not so beautiful if you're caught in a blizzard hitting part of the country but that's another story. time for a little fun with spare change. we are joined today by fox ne contributor julie roginsky and our ownennis kneale. first up, if you love country, i don't know if you guys are starbks people -- >> i am. adam: dennis are you starbucks? too bitter. >> you're too sweet. adam: starbucks wants to send a message to lawmakers, notice i ignored that one. message to lawmakers about the fiscal cliff. they're using coffee cups to do the job. the ceo at starbucks is urging starbucks workers and employees in the washington, d.c. area to write on the cups, come together, come together right now. i guess quoting the beatles. thursday and friday. dennis, what do you think?. >> that should fix it. that's all we needed. either conjures up very old beatles cliche or elusive quest in the bedroom. they should cut spending or ra
is that president obama says an agreement for the fiscal cliff is in sight. but not yet a done deal. john, where has this conference left us? >> where it left us simon, as in answer to your question before, who is his audience. there were remarks about only 600 million in revenue that thresholds are high. tom harkin went on the senate floor earlier. we will ask for more revenue. remember this $600 billion is less than john boehner's last revenue offer. they are going for more at la later point. >> how is that going to play on the hill. >> it'll play well with democrats and not so well with republicans. the president said these tax increases will be permanent. the president is signalling there that whatever is in this agreement cooked up behind closed doors does include a permanent extension of tax decreases for the middle class. that's an important part of the news as well. >> it was
.s. market has performed very well. by the time we get done today, especially on the fiscal cliff talks, we're going to be up about 14% in the s&p 500. the leaders in that were, of course, financials, tech and consumer discretionary. they performed very, very well. liz: exactly. we just talked banks. we are 22 minutes from thatt3 closing bell ringing. do you have a sense of where we go in the fist three months of 2012 plus or minus -- 2013, rather? >> i wish i could, but i can almost guarantee you this, we're going to have a lot of volatility the first two months because despite whatever deal we get done today if they get something done by midnight or the first two days of the few congress, we've got a bigger discussion that's looming, and that's on the debt ceiling. so you're going to see the republicans, they're going to cave just to keep the tax increases from going up. but they're going to hold that over the democrats' heads when it comes to the debt ceiling. liz: keith, tell the traders from all of us at fox business we wish you a happy new year. >> will do, and the same to you all. li
. neither chamber in session. an eerie calm since the fiscal cliff only congress has the power to avert is less than one week away. from their home, senate democratic leaders is trying to figure out if the president's scaled back bill can pass congress at the 11th hour. >> there is absolutely no reason, none, not to protect these americans from a tax hike. at the very least, let's agree right now on what we already agree on. let's get that done. >> reporter: but to get that done, democrats first would likely need nearly ten senate republicans to cross party lines and vote to effectively increase taxes on the top 2% of americans. some conservatives be grudgingly now say they're willing to do that. >> if we get done to twn to thed that's the only choice, i would support that. but i wish we would have a comprehensive bill that dealt with spending you can entitlements and taxes and you would together. >> reporter: the senate returns to work thursday, but democratic sources say their best realistic chance of getting gop votes is when the pressure will really be on, at or close to december 31
about getting anything done before we reach that fiscal cliff. listen to what he said. >> the speaker just has a few d days left to change his mind, but i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> let me kind of lay out the state of play. i'll try to keep it out as much as possible. this is something everybody is focused on. the ball is in the senate's court right now. so what senator reid, who you saw earlier, and the president, what they are trying to figure out is whether or not they can craft what the president called a scaled-back bill, which is what he campaigned on. raising taxes for everybody making more than $250,000 a year and adding a few other tax-related items in there. maybe spending but it's unclear. the question is whether or not they can put all that together in a way to get enough republican votes in order to pass the senate and then would have to have enough votes to pass the house as well. whether they can do that in the next few days is an open question. >> just procedurally too, that takes time. and congress notorious
. >> thank you. >>> there's more urgency in washington to get a deal done before the so-called "fiscal cliff" deadline less than a week from now. senate majority leader harry reid was reportedly at the capital on christmas working on a scaled-down plan to avoid tax hikes for all about the wealthiest americans. his plan would include short term spending cuts instead of long-term deals that had been sought. >>> from hawaii. comes word that president obama will cut short vacation and return to washington later today to take part in "fiscal cliff" negotiations. christmas day the president and first lady met with servicemembers and their families. the president told the marines he was grateful for their service and posed pour pictures. >>> recent college graduates are having a tough time getting jobs in their desired lines of work. according to the latest u.s. census figures about 2 60,000 young adults with college degrees in california are working in food service and retail. >> couldn't get a job in the field that i wanted to so i figured i have to start at the bottom. >> without higher paying j
. the president said he is modestly optimistic about a fiscal cliff deal getting done before new year's eve. >> clayton: they all said the same thing. presidential meeting with the leaders yesterday. harry reid. >> juliet: vice president showed up. >> clayton: they must have been all on the same table hey whether we lee this table we will say modestly optimistic. listen to senator mitch mcconnell who may be the linchpin of this whole thing. he said i will take the ball and run with it in the senate. get a deal done. listen to the senator. >> we had a good meeting at the white house. we are engaged in discussions the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. we will be working hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> charles krauthammer calling him a master negotiator. saying if it were left up to him he could solve the syrian civil war in a weekend. >> dave: he can get it done but there
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leaders left the white house today without a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. but the leaders and the president are still trying. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy isn't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> reporter: harry reid and mitch mccono agreed to spend the weekend working on a fall back plan that can pass both chambers of congress. >> some people will not like it, but that's where we are. >> reporter: president obama is pushing for a stop gap measure that would at least avoid tax increases on people earning less than $250,000. frustration is growing. a simple stop gap percent is not what men -- measure is not what many in washington hoped for. many blame president obama for the collapse of a bigger deal that would reduce spending and cut the country's debt. >> it is the president's responsibility to lay out a plan and to bring people together. >> house members don't get back here tonight sunday night. >>> president david wil
it done. look, i don't think it would be the end of the world if we go off the fiscal cliff. and it think it would be resolved in the weeks ahead. but this is kind of a black eye for the political system. here we are, two or three days ahead from the start of the year. without any american business investor, or worker, this just is not a very good way to run a country. and it is almost like banana republic politics. >> my dad used to say, no way to run a railroad. or government. let's talk about a couple of things, the whole idea that tax rates on everyone will go up. does the irs or the treasury department have the ability to sort of say look, here is some guidance? keep withholding where it is? >> well, the irs is in turmoil right now. they don't know what to do. they're putting out kind of mixed signals about whether they can get the tax forms done. whether they can advise businesses what to do. now i do think, the people that are really worried, the middle class people worried about their taxes going up. i do think if we get it solved in the next few days, there is a chance we get a r
fiscal cliff is having a huge effect on the stock market today. you can see the dow is down 135 points over 1%, consumer confidence very low because of concerns that fiscal cliff will cause taxes to rise for everyone if congress tpaeults to work to the. >>> former president george higgs boson bush remains in intensive care he is -- george h.w. bush remains in intensive. doctors suspected he would be home in time for christmas but his condition worsened, he is alert and talking to hospital staff. >>> there is a bright spot for the economy, new homes selling at fastest past in more than 2 1/2 years. strongest showing since april 2010. when home buyer tax credit boosted sales but still below the 700,000 level that economists consider healthy. experts say it is proof the housing market is recovering. real estate website zillow expects 2013 to be a seller's market special the bay area, las vegas and phoenix best places to buy, cleveland, chicago and philadelphia. >>> mike is ahead with our forecast. >>> tricky forecast coming up. system coming didn't at us is going to develop near us rainfa
will replace the late senator daniel inouye. >>> that looming fiscal cliff is having a huge effect on the stock market today. you can see the dow is down 135 points over 1%, consumer confidence very low because of concerns that fiscal cliff will cause taxes to rise for everyone if congress tpaeults to work to the. >>> former president george higgs boson bush remains in intensive care he is -- george h.w. bush remains in intensive. doctors suspected he would be home in time for christmas but his condition worsened, he is alert and talking to hospital staff. >>> there is a bright spot for the economy, new homes selling at fastest past in more than 2 1/2 years. strongest showing since april 2010. when home buyer tax credit boosted sales but still below the 700,000 level that economists consider healthy. experts say it is proof the housing market is recovering. real estate website zillow expects 2013 to be a seller's market special the bay area, las vegas and phoenix best places to buy, cleveland, chicago and philadelphia. >>> mike is ahead with our forecast. >>> tricky forecast coming up. system c
in mind, it's been a pretty good year despite it being an election year, despite the fiscal cliff and ongoing problems in europe. the market has done better than it has usual done. what's changed? i think there will be continued political turmoil and slow growth but that's, particularly given valuations, may not be a bad year for equities as all. >> i'm going to add to that list having been a good year for the stock market. also had a lot of recovery in the housing market as well. do all these good things, all this progress become undone if we go over the fiscal cliff. >> i think clearly we've seen some healing in housing which is great and as has already been said we've seen some good progress over in europe and in china so that's all great. i'm neutral on equities in my allocation strategy fund, target rich funds and the reason for that is the fiscal cliff. if we go over the fiscal cliff then i think that given how lean companies are, and as slow as we're growing, we could see the economy dip back into recession and earnings estimates will have to go lower. >> the mastercard rep
congress has not done- and if the fiscal cliff is taking up too much brentwood. even with that band with, they're not going forward they're taking up too much -- bandwidth. >> grant: if you'd like to connect with michael -- you can follow him on "at- yaki-blog." >> grant: former president george h-w bush remains in intensive care at a houston hospital tonight. the bush camps is remaining mostly silent -- providing no details today about his medical condition. mister bush -- who is 88- year-old. was hospitalized last month for a nasty cough related to bronchitis. he is now said to have developed a stubbord fever that rose earlier this week. the good news is he's alert and talking to doctors. >> the debate over gun control and the fallout from the n-r-a comments continue. national rifle association president david keene is speaking out today.nearly two weeks after the connecticut school massacre. n-r-a executive vice president wayne lapierre first addressed the issue last friday.calling for armed officers in all u-s schools. lapierre blamed recent mass shootings on poor oversight of the me
, bill. thanks. just ahead, with the country only three days away now from the edge of the fiscal cliff, we're going to tell you what it could mean for you and your wallet. >>> tonight in washington, the pressure is on, the clock is ticking, the countdown to the so called fiscal cliff hits the 72-hour mark in just a few minutes. while congress is hoping for a hail mary deal to avoid taking a plunge over the fiscal cliff, most americans are wondering what is wrong with these people, and how exactly social security going to affect them. so, we went ahead and crunched the numbers for you. there they were again. hour nation's leaders trooping into the white house one more time. and afterwards, the president. >> the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. >> you've heard that before. but today on the brink of the fiscal cliff, a glimmer of -- well, something. >> i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> but don't hold your breath. there is deep skepticism in washington that the leadership of our country will get its act together on
can point to a lot of things and one of them being the fiscal cliff, has a lot of the damage been done, brian? >> i think it has. that's a good point and i think what you need to do is put your trader hat on and say i'm going to trade this for a hope rally, but if you're a longer term investor i would use any type of rally to take any profits that i have because i think a lot of damage has been done over the last year. businesses have been paralyzed and now the consumer has been paralyzed. what advice do you have among people trying to invest amidst this uncertainty. >> i think long term they're much more important for factors at work than what happens with this budget deal. >> thank goodness. >>a you will we would do if we went over the cliff from a tax point of view is install the tax structure from the clinton administration. >> we'll show people right now that you like homebuilders and you like retailers, right? put that up. heebner likes retail, home building, what's the third one? automobiles. >> all early-cycle stocks. i like these stocks because the economy is going to be -- ha
app. >> catherine: coming up at 5-30. the fiscal cliff -- it's just four days away. what's being done in 11th hour talks. we'll have reaction from our poltiical analyst michael yaki. >>> and the newtown school massacre. scientists are now testing the shooters d-n-a. what they're looking for - ahead. >> jacqueline: this live look at a stormtracker 4. return on the radar but the wind and the rain will be returning. we will time it out on futurecast, coming up. (male announcer) live from the kron 4 news station, this is the kron 4 news. >> catherine: just 4 days to go. president obama stated the obvious earlier today. saying the hour for immediate action is here" to avoid the fiscal cliff. if there's no deal by midnight december 31st. there will be automatic tax increases and spending cuts. we'll have more from our political analyst in a minute - but first. kron 4's justine waldman is back with more on our developing story. >> reporter: after meeting with bi-partisan leaders friday, the president said no one will get 100-percent of what they want. he said if congress can't reach a deal.
happen again. we'll talk about that. >>> no deal in sight before the so-called fiscal cliff. coming up, an update on what if anything can be done from the ranking democrat on the house budget committee, maryland congressman chris van hollen and new information of kelly o'donnell and check out the "news nation" tumblr page. lots of behind the scenes pictures. i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump through. that's 1% back on... [ toy robot sounds ] 2% on pumpkin pie. and apple. 3% back on 4 trips to the airport. it's as easy as... -[ man ] 1... -[ woman ] 2... [ woman ] 3. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. >>> we are about a half hour away now with the meeting between president obama and top leaders of both parties. joining the president and vice president, boehner, pelosi, reid and mcconnell. their goal, agree on something before the country falls off the so-cal
. if we can get that done, that takes a big bite out of the fiscal cliff. it avoids the worst outcomes and we're then going to have some tough negotiation necessary terms of how we continue to reduce the deficit, grow the economy, create -- >> but this fight comes back. now, i want to ask you specifically about entitlements, medicare and social security. are you prepared in the first year of your second term to significantly reform those two programs, to go beyond the cuts you've suggested to benefits in medicare, that your own dead commission suggested you would have to do if you were going to shore up medicare at least? are you prepared to do that in your first year of a second term? >> what i've said is i am prepared to do everything i can to make sure that medicare and social security are there not just for this generation and for future generations. >> you have to talk tough to seniors. >> i already have. one of the proposals we made is something called change cpi which basically makes an adjustment in terms of how inflation is calculated on social security, highly unpopular among
.b.r. >> susie: good evening everyone. i'm susie gharib. fiscal cliff talks at the white house end with no deal, but president obama says he's still hopeful and says "we've got to get this done." gold prices pulled back today on worries about the fiscal cliff, will the metal shine in 2013? then cuba, tonight's "market monitor" sees big opportunity on the tiny island when the embargo's lifted. thomas herzfeld, of thomas herzfled advisors joins us. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a it
for you. >>> the u.s. is set to go over the fiscal cliff in five days. that means taxes will go up for nearly every american. dramatic spending cuts will kick in. president obama and congress will be back from vacation tomorrow. but will anything get done? >>> plus, wild winter weather sweeping through the country. we'll bring you the latest details on which part of the u.s. could be hit next. cnbc's "worldwide exchange" starts now. >>> and welcome to a special edition of reside worldwide. ross andcle reoff today for boxes day in -- kelly are off today for boxing day. for now, you is us. >> we'll start with a brief check on the markets. energy and metals are trading higher now, wtis up about 55 cents. brent crude up 65 cents. also want to check in on the gold price, as well. gold right now down about slightly under the flat line there, 1,-658. well below the 1,700 mark. the cme globex has been closed for christmas. it's going to reopen at 6:00 a.m. eastern time. that goes for treasuries and the foreign exchange market, as well. >> as for action in the overseas markets, the u.k. is
falling off the fiscal cliff will get us to do the really hard work that needs to be done. >> adam, in the recesses of your most con spear tospicon-- con spespir conspiretorial mind, people are going to lose jobs if we cut government spending and nobody wants to lose jobs. on the other hand they all know, by them, in washington there has to be cuts and it's easier for them, it's the conspiracy talking. >> what's wrong with going over the cliff. >> such wonders and-- >> the world is not going to end. >>, but you and i have jobs and some people will lose them. >> some of them. >> it will force coping to make the hard choices we need to make. david: hold on a second though. the one, the only thing that could raise revenue significantly is growth. i think everybody, republicans and democrats, one thing they agree on is that growth. that could increase revenue by hundreds of billions, not just tens of billions, and if everybody gets a tax increase, shibani, will likely go into recession in any we'll have negative growth and that will mean even worse of a deficit. >> if you start to cut
with two days left before the fiscal cliff or shouldn't he sit down and hammer out a deal with the senate republicans and house republicans. do you think a deal gets done? >> i do think a deal will get done. i think it might january 1st. i think we will briefly go over the fiscal cliff. the president worked on the issue months and months. the entire "crisis" is an issue of congress' own making . he was taping the meet the press on saturday. house republicans were cozy and doing nothing on the fiscal cliff. john bone bone took himself out of the negotiations and abdicated responsibility and said he would dole with whatever the senate and president had come to. i happening there is a lot of good proprosals on the table and something will get done, too. >> dave: it appears that senate republicans came a long way in sharing their desire for no taxes raised on the wealthy. $550,000 thres hold for couples is a significant compromise. but can they get anything through the house in terms of getting republican votes today? >> i don't think that will get through the house . the house was elected to
something done so we'll be on fiscal cliff watch on fast money. hopefully we'll have a deal to talk about. it's also about 2013 trades. predictions on the commodity front. top trade in the internet space. all of our traders will be prepared to give their top trades, as well. and of course we have broadcasting tonight in times square, heart of the biggest party in the universe. >> good luck getting home. >> really. >> have a great new year. >> thank you. you, too. >> we'll see you in 2013. here's what you missed if you're just tuning in. >>> welcome to hour three of "squawk on the street." here's what's happening so far. >> the real question is whether or not the president will weigh in and push the democrats in the senate to move forward with a bill today. if that happens, then i think that we can solve this current challenge. >> we ought to be concentrating on how to get government out of the way. get them off the back of small and medium sized businesses, even large corporations. let our economy grow. >> the economy is an incredible ability to self heal itself, but why want to take that
to help avoid the fiscal cliff. >> back to you very much, mary. four more days to the deadline. can a deal get done. congressman harris joining us now from baltimore. i'm going to talk about your plan in a moment, sir, but let me ask you about the word that we got in the last hour about the house reconvening sunday night. can you shed some light on any significance that may have. what have you heard? should we get our hopes up for sunday evening, or not? >> just got a conference call an hour ago with the speakership and leadership and that's only to get ready for anything coming over to the senate. the senate usually takes a couple of days to pass a bill. haven't even started working on one so the earliest they could have something over to the house would be sunday and the leadership will give its members 48 hours notice tomorrow and get us back in town sunday night. >> are you hearing that the senate's working on something that could come your way by then? >> there's a rumor that the president has taken mrmr. boehne mr. boehner's plan "b" and added unemployment insurance. i'm sure the sen
something about fiscal cliff, and then we'll move on that news, but traders are saying if we get a deal done, we'll see the market take off. we have not seen a santa claus rally this december, unfortunately, and, in fact, the nasdaq lower. stocks lower, by the way. here's the new york stock exchange, three stocks trading down for every one trading up. another thing trading up a the vix index. it's 20.18. the vix has traded below the two decade average, and that's not happened this month. we broke that trend. we have an uptick in the vix now. adam, back to you. adam: the question of the day, are we closing in on the deadline and potential plan to avert the fiscal cliff, about this afternoon's meeting between the leaders, and expectations between a deal are not running as high as they were back in november. remember this? >> i believe we can do this, avert the fiscal cliff that is right in front of us today. >> this is not something we are going to wait until the last day of december to get it done. adam. adam: proof words are cheap. it's the end of diecious, and absolutely nothing was done. w
of the issues the parties said they were concerned about leading into the fiscal cliff. the payroll tax cut is going to expire. no one is talking about extending that. that is the one that gives the biggest bang for the buck. host: if a deal does get done, how much of the cliff aristo going to be staring at? guest: you are staring at one cliff, the payroll tax cut going away. that is 3% of every wage earner up to $100,000 or so. that will have a big economic impact. you are approaching the debt ceiling cliff which will be another standoff. i assume that is where we will get into the discussion of spending cuts that seems to be absent from whatever deal they are talking about. guest: if there is no deal, the full tax cuts go away. the tax increases and spending cuts will go into effect. about iran fiscal policy given the time. but something in between. maybe the minimum of $200 billion and the maximum of $600 billion. host: some statistics with several charts on how it affects you in your income bracket. the richest 20% with scene increase of about $20,000 increase in taxes owed. for those m
try to work out on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. the deadline is less than 48 hours away and as to whether they can get it done, the president says he's hopeful. >> i'm modestly ll lly optimis an agreement can be achieved. let's make sure that middle class families and the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> both houses of congress are meeting in a rare sunday session. the house an hour later at 2:00. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin now with the look at a chance for a deal and what's on the table. >> alison, here in washington, there is still hope a deal can be cut in time to avert the fiscal cliff. on saturday, the president was at work here in the white house but all eyes were on the senate where negotiators were trading deal points and revenue figures to try to reach an agreement all sides can stomach. the baseline for the president, any bipartisan bill would have to extend unemployment insurance that would affect some 2 million americans and increase taxes for the highest income earners. but negotiators ca
to start grappling with the idea that even if we go over the fiscal cliff and people start negotiating more intensively, how realistic is that if they couldn't get the deal done in the last six weeks and that they will get it done in the next six weeks? we're looking at a lot of market uncertainty. >> it's clear, too, that it takes that pressure, whether it's pressure in terms of the calendar or form of the markets that takes lawmakers to compromise. we've had calendar pressure. we haven't had as much market pressure maybe because we've had a view that it's going to be okay. but we're starting to hear from guests on the program, allen capper saying, look, as it appears, we're not going to get what we hoped for. it could be a bit of an ugly trade come january. >> you know, i have to agree with that. i'm surprised that we haven't seen more of that sentiment showing up in markets to date. maybe because it's that thin holiday period. but even if you go back to august of 2011 when we came so close to a technical default on federal obligations win it didn't find its way to the markets until a few
of this country, not about the welfare of a political party. gregg: all right. brad, the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons why people are so incredibly gloomy about the future, and, you know, dick's making the point here when speaker john boehner can't even get his own party to follow him and put up a vote on his plan, i mean, aren't republicans equally to blame for the public's profound pessimism? >> well, we have a divided nation, that is for sure. this president has not done his job in leading, and had he done his job in leading especially in the fiscal cliff, he wouldn't be in hawaii now, he'd be in washington making sure that we had a deal -- gregg: has boehner done his job? >> boehner has done a great job in trying to lead republicans to a solution. gregg: seriously? >> absolutely. gregg: he can't even get a vote on his own plan, come on. >> here's the problem, gregg, is we have a president who basically says it's his way or the highway, and republicans are saying, no, we will raise revenue, but we won't do it at the expense of spending. our problem is a president who loves to spend m
senators, our president not to take this over the fiscal cliff, but get something done and take care of us in a sensible way instead of waiting to the last minute on all these different issues. thank you for my time. host: thank you. another comment on our #fiscalcliff, "congress is so incompetent, i hope everyone is so happy about who they voted for in november." the 112 congress will be wrapping up this week. the 113th congress will be in on january 3. we have a number of news reports of. this is about what is going on behind the scene. senator tom harkin weighing in on this on the senate floor. >> i was disturbed to read in the washington post this morning that some kind of agreements are being made here, somehow that democrats have agreed to raise the level from two lenders $50,000 to $450,000 -- from $250,000 to $450,000 and there was an agreement reached that we keep the estate taxes at the $5 million level at 35%. all i can say is, democrats do not agree with that. not at all. what it looks like is it looks like all of the tax things will be made permanent, but all of the things tha
is that most people here think that if anything is going to get done before the fiscal cliff deadline, that it won't happen until the pressure is on, on or around december 31st. that's practically and probably why what we saw today was suspended animation. this is one place in washington free of gridlock.baristas are writing the words, "come together" on customers' coffee. >> people are tired that congress can't come to a compromise or agree on anything. >> reporter: but even that doesn't seem to be moving lawmakers. >> taxes are approaching the wrong direction. come the first of this year, americans will have less income than they have today. >> reporter: senate democratic leader harry reid, back from christmas break, was highly pessimistic about passing anything to avert the fiscal cliff and keeping all americans' taxes from going up january 1st. >> i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know, time wise, how it can happen now. >> five days until the fiscal cliff, and both sides are engaged in legislative and political chicken. the president called each of the four congress
left for lawmakers to come up with a way to avoid the fiscal cliff. who is feeling more pressure to get things done, the president, the democrats, congressional republicans?. patti ann: and funeral services are now set for two firefighters killed in an ambush. we're now learning more about why a man intentionally set a fire in order to trap the first-responders. >> the note was important for us to find because at least it provided us with the information leading toward the intent of the shooter essentially to burn undo the neighborhood in which he resided and to kill people. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. gregg: all right, new developments on the christmas eve ambush that left two firefighters dead up in state new york. police say they have human remains in the burned out home of the gunman. david lee miller is live in our newsroom. david, so what do we know
, your taxes go up $3,000. if nothing is done to avert the fiscal cliff. if you make $104,000, doing pretty well, you see your taxes go up $6200. if you make $400,000 a year, you see taxes go up over $9,000. that's overnight. the bush tax cuts sunset if we don't do anything to variety the fiscal cliff. this is something that the president and republicans agree on. they agree 98% of the americans shouldn't have taxes raised, but that 2% disagreement brings us to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> the ceo of starbucks says, hey, you know what? let's write on our coffee cups "come together." do you think anybody will pay attention to that in washdz? >> you know what? anything and everything helps. just merely spreading the message america is watching and waiting for congress to act to find a way to reason together, that's an important act, and everyone doing their part can do, i say good on him. we need to send this message to washington and make sure it isn't settled. we'll go deeper into this tonight at 7:00 as well. this is urnlggent. the clock is ticking, suzanne. >>> many american fa
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